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If you’ve visited my blog, you know how much I like to chat with readers in the comments section. I’m opening up the comments on this page, hoping that we can talk about writer’s workshops here and get a little community going.

A few reasons you might want to leave a comment:

  • To ask questions about the book.
  • For advice about starting a workshop of your own.
  • To ask me or others questions about our workshop experiences.
  • To share victories or difficulties related to a workshop you’re currently facilitating.
  • To share your child’s (or your) experiences in a writer’s workshop.
  • To chat about anything else workshop-related. (If you have comments or questions about more general aspects of writing, please consider leaving them on my blog.)

 

38 comments… add one
  • AmandaXC Nov 26, 2012 @ 12:37

    I’m curious about how to facilitate a workshop for kids who can’t really write – I have a 7 yr old who is just learning to read and an 8 year old who hates writing, and I think it’s because it’s tough for him physically – although he has nice handwriting, it takes f.o.r.e.v.e.r. to get a couple words on the page. On the plus side, his writing appears to me to be a comic form of illumination writing – each letter is embellished! (comic because his favorite vehicle for writing is comics) Anyhow – this may be a stupid question, but do workshops work for non-readers/writers?

    • patricia Nov 26, 2012 @ 13:21

      Workshops absolutely work for “non-writers”, Amanda! Parents simply need to take dictation from the kids on what they have to say! In my workshops I *encourage* parents to take dictation from kids–even kids who are able to write on their own somewhat, because dictation allows kids to express more complex ideas than they may be able to if forced to write on their own. I’ve had many, many kids bring dictated work to my workshops. My own kid at eleven still often brings dictated work.

      I discuss dictation in the book, including an entire chapter on it in the Toolbox section. There’s also a month-long series on dictation on my blog: http://patriciazaballos.com/the-dictation-project/

      Ultimately, I think kids who start workshopping when they’re young and unable to write much themselves are in an excellent position to develop as writers. Through dictation, they “write” some impressive stuff, and have a built-in audience with which to share it! And their writing skills develop naturally because the workshop provides such great incentive to keep growing as a writer.

      • AmandaXC Nov 27, 2012 @ 5:22

        Good to know! I didn’t know if it would be too cumbersome, taking dictation in a workshop. I’d love to try this with our small homeschool group. I look forward to reading the book! For now I’ll head off to the blog posts about dictation – I’ve done some of that because I set up a blog for my older boy and I’ve typed what he’s written there. A bit. Thanks for your response!

      • patricia Nov 27, 2012 @ 8:40

        Amanda, in my workshops, we don’t do most of our writing during the workshop. This differs from how workshops are typically done in a classroom setting. In my workshops, the kids do the writing at home, and we share it at the workshop. This gives kids more time to work on their writing, in a way that works for them–even if that means via offering dictation to a parent.

        We do a short writing exploration during the workshop, and kids who are unable to write can either draw or dictate to an adult. But the bulk of workshop writing is done beforehand, at home.

        Of course I explain all of this in more depth in the book. 🙂

  • Sonya terBorg (@terSonya) Nov 26, 2012 @ 19:02

    In love with this already! Thanks so much for sharing your love of writing with us. I can’t wait to pull the nuts and bolts and nitty-gritty pieces into place for my own students. A gem! Here is my ‘review’ of sorts on my blog: http://sonyaterborg.com/2012/11/26/writers-workshop/

    • patricia Nov 27, 2012 @ 8:42

      Thank you, Sonya! It’s so interesting to get teachers’ takes on this. Linked your review on my testimonials page!

  • AmandaXC Dec 1, 2012 @ 5:57

    I’m excited to read the book, and to start up our homeschool workshops in January. I’m thrilled with your approach (read the dictation posts and some of your homeschool posts) as there are a lot of similarities in our styles, homeschool-wise, and that gives me the hope that it will work for my kids (I think my older boy and your youngest are quite similar!). I doubt I’d have considered leading such workshops if not for you presenting it this way.

    • patricia Dec 3, 2012 @ 10:09

      I’m thrilled that you’re planning to start up a workshop in January, Amanda!

      Please come back here if you have any questions as you begin, or any victories to share.

      Hearing that the book is giving you the confidence to start up a workshop pleases me more than I can say. That was my goal in writing it!

  • Kate Edenborg Feb 1, 2013 @ 11:04

    I’m considering doing a writing workshop at a local place in my small town that offers courses to young kids (right now mostly 7 and under). Would your book on workshops be useful for a younger (perhaps even 4-6 year old) session?

    • patricia Feb 1, 2013 @ 11:19

      Absolutely, Kate! In the book I share how, during my first workshop, the younger siblings, aged 4-7 or so, wanted to join in with what their older siblings were doing, and so they became part of the workshop! I also cover the idea of taking dictation from younger kids who aren’t fluent writers–and even having parents or other adults read their work for them if they can’t read themselves.

      Workshops can be great for younger kids. Young kids are usually very enthusiastic about giving feedback, and often continue with the workshop over time, and become very insightful about offering feedback–and writing!

      Please let me know if you have other questions, or if you want to brainstorm further what a workshop might look like for younger kids.

  • AmandaXC Feb 15, 2013 @ 10:35

    Well, we had our first workshop and it was a wild success! Wild because it was almost all boys in the 7-9 yo range, but also wild because it went so well. 🙂 What a great time. We did introductions (including their favorite book or genre and “the first word you think of when you hear ‘writers workshop'”). I talked about the workshop format, then we started with one word (snow) and did associations, which led to using Rory’s Story Cubes to build a story based on the ideas they had from snow (a wizard who finds himself locked out of his house in his pajamas in the snow, who then has an encounter with an abominable snowman). Then we talked about our favorite words, which led to a Mad Libs activity. Lastly, I gave them their prompt for next week and we talked about all the silly ways we could adapt that from our first impression of the prompt…good fun! And everyone admitted that their first word association from the beginning (writers workshop) was inaccurate, and that they had a lot of fun. They’ve already asked if we can continue the story we made up in the first part of the workshop.

    Thank you so much for this ebook and the inspiration to host this. I enjoyed every minute of it and I can’t wait for our next one!

    • patricia Feb 15, 2013 @ 18:13

      Amanda, I’m so glad your first workshop was a success! And I love that you’ve tweaked the workshop your own way, so it works for you and your particular group. You’ve inspired me to try using Story Cubes with my group too!

      If you’ve got a bunch of kids excited to write more at your next meeting, you know you’re doing something good! Thanks for taking the time to share, and please keep me posted on how your group develops. I love to hear it.

  • AmandaXC Feb 16, 2013 @ 11:58

    It was only our first meeting, so they didn’t have stuff to read…but next time we’ll do that and some neutral feedback. They also wanted to continue their group story, so I’ll find a different way to incorporate that during a break from readings.

    Considering the word associations they offered for “writers workshop” included “boring”, “weird”, “stupid”, “I can’t think of anything” and “I don’t know”…I feel like it was a big success. By the end I’m pretty sure they all would have said “fun”. It really wasn’t what they were expecting…in a good way! We’ll see how it progresses. 🙂

    • patricia Feb 26, 2013 @ 21:27

      Workshops *are* fun! Glad they’re figuring that out!

  • H.Lee Mar 19, 2013 @ 16:23

    Do you have any experience doing longer single day events? I am thinking of a day during which kids meet and share work, write on their own, share and have free time to play and eat sprinkled throughout the day. This could be a stand-alone event or a culmination of a short-term summer group. What would you consider the potential benefits or drawbacks of this type of event? Do you think it would be better for a certain age group? Thanks for any advice!

    • patricia Mar 23, 2013 @ 10:46

      I have never done anything like this personally–although I’ve certainly been to writing conferences myself that were structured this way. Also, my older kids went to a writing conference, held elsewhere, when they were 12 or 13, and they loved it. It sounds like a great idea!

      Since you’ll have the time, you might want to consider incorporating reading aloud into the workshop. In the Exploration section of the book, I mention a couple of explorations based on books: Would Your Rather and My Animal Friends. Would You Rather, in particular, is silly and fun and kids love it. You could read it aloud, and then have kids write their own Would You Rathers… In a shorter workshop there isn’t always time to incorporate a lot of reading, but using great books as models really ought to be part of a workshop experience, and having a whole day would give you plenty of time for that.

      You might look at the book Show Me a Story by Emily Neuburger for fun, crafty/writing activities which might be a neat diversion during a day-long program, especially during the summer.

      You might want to come up with explorations that can be done outside too. Haiku in the garden, for example, can be fun.

      I think you’d want to make an effort to mix up the types of activities you do, so the kids don’t get bored.

      I think there’s a lot of potential for helping kids see the fun in writing at such an event. The drawback, I suppose, is that you probably won’t be able to get into nuanced workshop feedback over the course of a single day. Kids get much better at giving feedback to one another over time; when they start out, their feedback tends to be brief and less sophisticated. They also develop trust with one another over time. That’s okay–the *workshop* aspect might be a more minor part of the day, and the having-fun-with-explorations might be a more of a focus.

      I think it could work for any age group. Of course, younger kids would need more free playtime, and maybe more activities rather than open-ended writing. The Neuburger book mentioned above has great ideas for younger kids. They might also enjoy writing stories *together*. Older kids would probably be able to spend more time working on their own writing, and giving more attention to feedback sessions.

      Oh, I just thought of one more resource that’s mentioned in my book: Don’t Forget to Write by the writing program 826 Valencia is a fantastic compilation of fun writing activities, sorted by age–and written by writers! http://www.826national.org/826store/451/don-t-forget-to-write The activities are creative and not school-y. Really good stuff. Many of them are designed to be used over a series of class sessions, so I often struggle to incorporate them into my shorter workshops. But I think you’d find great ideas for a day-long event. (And the book proceeds go to a fantastic cause!)

      Please report back, H! Would love to hear what you do!

  • AmandaXC May 3, 2013 @ 6:34

    Hi Patricia,
    Our writers workshop has been going strong and we’re having our last one for the spring in two weeks. We have decided to have a bookmaking party like you suggest, and the kids can sign each others copies. One thing – the pdf version of your book contains things that look like links to websites (they are different colored text and underlined) but they don’t work as links. I wanted to check out the bookmaking tutorial you suggest, by Pam Petty, and the bookmaking for kids link – could you point me in the right direction for each?

    Incidentally, all the kids have asked if we can do another workshop in the fall (of course we can!). It has been really fun, and surprising too. Some of the most reluctant participants in other homeschool activities have enthusiastically joined in and always ask to be the first author to read their work. It has been great for us moms, too!

    • patricia May 3, 2013 @ 9:07

      I’m thrilled that the kids have enjoyed your workshop, Amanda! I love that some of the more reluctant kids have embraced it. That’s just the reason I wrote this book: I have had such fantastic experiences with the writer’s workshop, and I wanted others to have that too. Yay!

      I’m bummed about the links not working in the PDF! I will go back and see if there’s something I need to fix. (A question for you: do the other links throughout the PDF work?) Here are the correct links:
      http://www.pampetty.com/bookmaking.htm
      http://www.bookmakingwithkids.com

      The bookmaking can be rather complicated. Make sure you make a complete sample book on your own ahead of time, and have lots of other parents on hand to help, if possible. As I mentioned in the book, Yes! Paste makes a nice smooth surface, but it can be really messy to work with. Kids can spread it fine in the book, but then it gets on their work surface, and can mess up their covers….So it’s good to have lots of extra newspaper layers to put out, and even wax paper to protect other pages when pasting. Try a book out yourself, and you’ll see what I mean! Regular white glue won’t make such a nice, professional surface, but it might be easier for kids to work with.

      If you have any questions about the process, please ask. I’ll be making books with my workshop in a few weeks, so it’s good for me to keep the process fresh in my mind. Good luck, and have fun!

  • AmandaXC May 15, 2013 @ 15:30

    I just made my prototype and it turned out well, although I forgot to put in a title page…whoops! Came out great. Very excited for our bookmaking party on Friday! I am actually using my sewing machine to sew the pages, rather than hand sewing, as it is quicker and neater.

    • patricia May 20, 2013 @ 8:53

      Using a sewing machine to sew the pages is a great idea, if you don’t want to sew them during the actual bookmaking session. It’s fun to have the kids sew them together, but it’s a bit complicated, and you’re right: the machine-sewn results will be nicer.

      Hope your group had fun!

      • Laura Aug 12, 2013 @ 12:29

        A quick comment on machine sewing books: I helped in a writing class at our last co-op, and our culminating activity was making books like this. We had two sewing machines set up with white bobbin thread and another adult helper and I took kids in groups of two to sew their books together. Each kid chose their own main thread color out of our thread collections. It didn’t take too long, maybe 5 minutes per book – even with a few of the kids choosing to sew their own on the machines! You do have to have the machines prepped with correct tension to sew paper, bobbins threaded, etc. But depending on the time available and group size, definitely doable!

      • patricia Aug 12, 2013 @ 17:32

        Ooh, good to know, Laura! Neat that that kids got to choose their own thread color too. Thanks so much for sharing your experience here!

  • AmandaXC Sep 26, 2013 @ 13:15

    Hi Patricia,
    We’ve started up a new workshop for fall, and tomorrow is our second meeting. I’m having trouble thinking of things to do during the workshop besides the reading/feedback. I usually plan some kind of activity that supports the writing process – sometimes we’ve done things like make lists – lists of characters, lists of settings, lists of problems, and then mix and match for story starters. We’ve done other things like descriptions, verb charades (love that one) etc. But I’m stumped now! Do you have any ideas or hints for websites where I can get some ideas? Ideally they’re things that 8 kids can do as a group in about 20 minutes. We always leave room for madlibs and story cubes, but I’d like some new ideas! Thanks…Amanda

    • patricia Sep 26, 2013 @ 20:36

      So, Amanda, I assume you’ve already looked at the ideas I share in the book? Do you have any of the reference books that I recommend in the final section of the book? Karen Benke’s book Rip the Page is particularly good, as the writing ideas are mostly straightforward and short–and fun! She also has a brand new book which I haven’t seen yet called Leap Write In, which also looks to have more good ideas.

      You could try exploring lists some more, but try different lists, other than story lists. Last week at my workshop we made lists of Good Things/ Bad Things. It was fun to note things that ended up on both lists, or were good for some kids, and bad for others….We’ve also made lists of things to do when you’re bored in a Target, which was lots of fun. There are endless things you can do with lists, if you think about it, and lists tend to be easy for kids. There are a few other ideas in the book. Maybe have the kids help you brainstorm a list of possible lists!

      I googled around for you, but didn’t see a lot online. With a resource like Benke’s book, it’s fairly easy to start there and then come up with other variations on her suggestions. I also think about what the kids are writing, and try to come up with explorations that are related. If a few of them are writing fantasy fiction, say, we might do an exploration involving writing exciting first lines for a fantasy story.

      I try to keep the writing explorations fairly simple, as I think that sharing writing and offering feedback is the essential part of the workshop. We only spend 15-20 minutes on it, as it seems you do. If you feel that you’re having to work too hard to come up with explorations, maybe you could try to expand the workshop portion of the day, so the explorations aren’t such a focus. Or use your Mad Libs and story cubes as the exploration portion, since the kids seem to like them.

      I’m not sure any of this is helpful, Amanda. I think it gets easier to come up with explorations as you go. You can also revisit successful explorations more than once! The kids always come up with something new.

  • AmandaXC Sep 27, 2013 @ 5:11

    Yes, we’ve done just about everything in your book! 🙂 I’ve also used some things from Rip the Page, and I’ve got Spilling Ink, Wacky We-search and Don’t Forget to Write as inspiration also. We also do try to keep the activity simple – most of the workshop is devoted to reading/feedback, but the kids LOVE the activities we do almost as much as the writing they share. And this group has a couple new members that I really want to get hooked in. 🙂 Last time we put together a list of all the kinds of writing they could think of, so we could have a springboard for the kinds of writing they want to do over the course of the year.

    I think this week we’re going to do “mugshots” – I printed off pages of pictures of faces and we’ll use them to create characters – I made a list of fun questions to ask about each person to help flesh them out (what do they like to eat for breakfast, what do they do for fun, what are they good at, what are they terrible at, etc). Then for the next writing assignment, they’ll either draw a picture or find one in a magazine or online, of anything or person to make a character out of, and then put them in a headline and write a news story about them.

    I think it’s hard for me to come up with explorations because I don’t feel particularly creative about it. And I don’t want them to be too dry. Any time I ask what they want to do, it’s ALWAYS either work on their group story or mad libs. Then they have a contest to see who can come up with the most ridiculous story elements! It’s fun, but it does get a little tired. For me. 😉

    Thank you!

    • patricia Oct 1, 2013 @ 10:19

      Sorry not to get back to you sooner, Amanda. I was out of town for a few days.

      Your mug shots activity sounds like a lot of fun! I’ll bet the kids enjoyed it.

      It sounds like you have all of the resources I recommended. 🙂 I use them as much for direct ideas as for inspiration for coming up with my own ideas.

      I wouldn’t worry too much about having the exploration ideas be creative–if they’re open-ended enough, the kids come up with the creativity, as I’m sure you’ve experienced. Some of the best explorations are the simplest ones, because that’s where the kids get to take an opportunity and run with it.

      Perhaps you could have an exploration brainstorming session with the kids in your workshop. Ask them which of the explorations they’ve already done have been favorites (beyond Mad Libs and Story Cubes.) Revisiting explorations, as I’ve mentioned, is often a good thing, as kids get the exploration and can do more with it a second time. If some time has passed, all the better. You could also ask if they have ideas for tweaking some of those favorite explorations, and doing something different with them. Kids are often better at coming up with such ideas than we adults are! You don’t have to use the ideas they suggest; write them down so the kids know you’re listening, and see if you can make some of them work.

      If you or your kids come up with any fun explorations, please share them here, as you did with your mug shots activity! I’ll come back and share anything fun we do (that I haven’t already mentioned in the book.) Maybe we–and others!–can inspire each other. That’s what this page is for!

  • Stephanie Oct 9, 2014 @ 14:04

    Need advice. We started doing Writer’s Workshop with some friends (5kids total) last spring and the kids loved it! Think it worked so well because they already trusted each other. They were writing today and were talking about wanting to share their writing at another workshop with their friends, BUT we just moved 10 hours away! Ugggg! Trying to figure out the best way to continue some kind of Workshop via Skype or email and Skype. We could try to start a local group, but it seems like such a good way to keep them connected with their friends if only we can figure out a good way to keep in going with the distance between us. Any suggestions?

    • patricia Oct 14, 2014 @ 21:41

      Hi Stephanie. Great question! I’ve never done a workshop with kids via Skype, but I have done it with my own adult writing group. We had a member who moved away, and we managed to continue meeting by Skyping her in. Since we’re adults who write longer pieces, we always emailed our work to each other a week or so ahead of our meeting. This gave us time to read each other’s work—and we actually wrote written comments before the meeting as well. (Something that can work nicely for teen writers.) Since the pieces were longer, rather than read them aloud during our meetings, each reader would choose a favorite paragraph from the piece to read, and then we would begin to offer feedback.

      I think this method could work just as well for kids. I’d recommend emailing the kids’ work to each other ahead of time, since sometimes Skype can get a little glitchy, and it might be hard to follow the flow of a piece read aloud. You could still have the kids read a favorite paragraph, or even the entire piece–but you’d have the written work to fall back on if the sound quality is less than perfect. Then you just go about the meeting as you would if you were meeting in person. Skype can be a little frustrating: sometimes the sound cuts out, or it gets hard to take turns talking. But if you have a writing group that has worked well in person, Skype can be a great way to carry on over the distance. Our group was so happy to be able to continue meeting that we didn’t mind the occasional technical difficulties. A positive writing group is a treasure.

      If you try it out, please report back and tell us how it goes!

  • Jennifer Dec 28, 2016 @ 4:50

    I’m planning to start a writer’s workshop for my daughter (7) and some of the local home educators. I’m still trying to work out the logistics! Would you recommend charging for the workshops? Not necessarily to earn money, but to create a sense of commitment. I guess I’m not really keen for it to be a drop-in session and I’d prefer a consistent group of kids.

    Also, how helpful do you think a writing activity is, over just sharing the kids’ work? I think many of the kids who would be coming would be pre-writing or early writers (my own daughter is in this category and does all her writing by dictation).

    • patricia Jan 2, 2017 @ 18:16

      Hi Jennifer!

      Thanks so much for using the “community” page for Workshops Work! I’d love to see the page get utilized more as a forum for discussion about facilitating workshops.

      I have never charged for a workshop, but that has more to do with the culture of the support group I was part of than anything else. I think it would be fine to charge–especially if you want to commit parents to regular attendance. I think it would be important for you to convey the purpose of the workshop, since sometimes people expect “results” for activities they pay for. If you convey ahead of time that the purpose of the workshop is to help kids enjoy writing (or whatever your purpose is), you should be okay. Then again, I have always had fairly regular attendance at my workshops, even without charging. The kids get so excited about participating that they don’t want to miss them!

      A writing activity is definitely not essential. It can be a way of showing kids different formats of writing, and how fun writing can be. It can also be helpful to keep an activity in your back pocket, just in case the sharing time passes quickly. When I did workshops with young kids, I was lucky enough to have parents attend, so they could take dictation from their own kids during our exploration time. (So great that you’re using dictation with your daughter! Definitely encourage other parents to consider doing so with their kids.) Or, if you want to try incorporating writing activities, you could look for some that would allow kids to write or draw in their response. For example, I’ve done an exploration in which kids receive a folded paper with eight sections, and they make a record of what they might do on “the best day ever,” writing or drawing a morning activity in the first square, a mid-morning one in the next square, etc. There are no reality limits with this exploration–they can do whatever they dream up, and kids love it! There are many possibilities that kids could respond to with drawing and/or writing. You can also encourage invented spelling from kids (Spelling words however the words sound to them. Some kids like this; some find it intimidating.) Then again, you can skip the exploration altogether–or consider adding it down the road.

      I’m so thrilled that you’re starting a workshop! Feel free to come back here to chat further, and I’d love to hear how your workshop goes!

  • Stephanie Jan 5, 2019 @ 7:01

    Hi Patricia… I can’t tell you what an amazing impact your Writer’s
    Workshop book has had on my life and the kids in it! Three years ago
    you gave me some encouragement to get started, and I have been very
    successfully offfering Writer’s Workshops in my area.
    One thing that comes up time and time again is that some kids really want the
    “building” feedback. I’ve played around with it some, but
    haven’t really settled on a good way to offer this option in a 60-90
    minute weekly Writer’s Workshop format. I keep thinking that it needs
    to be connected to revision so that it is actually useful. I have
    several kids that have been with me for several years now, and I want
    to really start incorporating “building” feedback into the
    workshop.

    Also, I would love to share with you the positive
    feedback that I received as a result of offering these Writer’s
    Workshops! Here are some of the types of comments that I get emailed to me on a near WEEKLY basis:

    “Stephanie’s Writer’s Workshops transformed my tween-teen son from HATING writing, complete with tantrums and tears, to calling himself a writer.  Stephanie understands children, writing development, and anxiety, and creates an environment in her workshop that helps kids feel capable in a way they might never have before.  The creative writing abilities my son learned with Stephanie have carried over to technical writing required for his honors freshman public school classes.  Instead of fussing over his assignments, he’s written quality material with relative ease and confidence.  Not only do they learn to write, I’ve observed how Stephanie’s students learn critical listening and speaking skills through the positive, insightful feedback they give to each other.”
    -Linda M.

    “I want to let you know what a positive experience your class has been for Oliver. He has been writing every day without frustration or tears, which has made his whole day that much more pleasant and productive. I can’t thank you enough for providing such an encouraging, cooperative and knowledge-filled environment. I am confident that by continuing in your class he will grow by leaps and bounds in his confidence and competence in writing as well develop a greater love for the art. “
    -Jeanne S.

    “Stephanie creates a caring and fun environment where kids are eager to share their writing each week.”
    -Juliet I.

    “I highly recommend Stephanie’s Writer’s Workshops. My daughter has dyslexia and is a reluctant writer, but she is *thriving* in Stephanie’s class. Her whole outlook on writing is being transformed by this experience. Stephanie very intentionally creates a space that is fun, engaging, nurturing, and supportive as she helps her students develop as writers.”
    -Sarah M.

    “I can’t recommend this writer’s workshop enough. My son couldn’t stand writing, it’s sloppy and he just has trouble coming up with ideas. After one session with Stephanie, my son was talking about writing and what he’d write about next. He’d tell me about class discussions and he was excited to be involved. After we finished, he was still writing on his own, without prompting from anyone. We’re already signed up for the next quarter.”
    -Jen

    “This class is designed with fun games and activities. We have a writer’s community where we are free to write anything we want! I used to really dislike writing and avoided it like the plague, but I have taken the class twice and really enjoyed it. We have a wonderful teacher who is creative and good at making writing fun. We share our writing and give positive feedback to each other. I highly recommend this writing program for all ages. Happy writing! “
    -Oliver S., 11 years old, Writer’s Workshop Veteran

    “The class was amazing!  I felt so welcome and open to share my ideas and receive other people’s ideas as well.  Ms. Stephanie is such a nice person and I felt great being in a classroom with her.  I have writer’s block so much less often now.  I am so happy that I took the class!”
    ~Max, age 11

    Thank you so much for your inspiration, Patricia. Your book has been a life-changer for me!
    Stephanie Gillespie

    • patricia Jan 12, 2019 @ 17:57

      Stephanie, thank you so much for sharing the feedback you’ve been getting from your workshop families! Your workshops sound fantastic, and you’re getting just the sort of response I’ve always gotten with my workshops–kids love them, even kids who didn’t enjoy writing previously. I am so, so pleased to hear that you’ve been doing this for three years, and changing the writing lives of young people for the better. Woo hoo!

      I have been writing out some notes in response to your question about building feedback. It’s a good question! I’m trying to write it up as a blog post–it’s been a long time since I’ve written that sort of post, and I’d love to shine some light on writer’s workshops again. I’m trying to do it in my spare time since I have a writing deadline I’m under during the week. I’ll post it as soon as I can, and will share it with you when I do. (Or if I can’t manage it, I’ll send you the notes I have.)

      Thank you for sharing in the workshop love! xo.

    • patricia Feb 11, 2019 @ 13:04

      Hi Stephanie!

      I finally wrote up a response for you! I hope all this long-windedness is helpful! http://patriciazaballos.com/2019/02/11/offering-the-feedback-a-writer-really-needs/ (I felt that I needed to give context for other readers, so it takes me a while to get to my suggestions.)

      I’d love to know if you think this might work for your group–or if you already do something along these lines. Another thought would be having older kids respond in writing to one another’s work. That’s a different issue so I didn’t address it here, but that format can work really well for eager older writers. If that’s something you’d like to explore, let me know and I can offer some tips–and I won’t take so long to get to it!

    • patricia Apr 4, 2019 @ 8:50

      I thought of you, Stephanie, when I read this article on Lit Hub about the role of a writer during an MFA workshop. There are some ideas here that might help you expand your building feedback even further, via the writer. https://lithub.com/unsilencing-the-writing-workshop/

  • Sonya Doernberg Oct 21, 2021 @ 11:36

    I’d like to do an ongoing group or workshop like that for adults who are writers (the big kids.) Any suggestions on how to get going? Anyone interested in doing this with me? This would be in liue of a critique group. I would also be a participant in this.

    • patricia Oct 26, 2021 @ 21:22

      Hi Sonya! The ideas in my book would work great with adults! You could do it in person or online. I’ve been in a lot of in-person writing groups myself, and during the pandemic participated in a yearlong class that workshopped on zoom and it worked great! I made a little video early in the pandemic, offering parents suggestions for adapting the workshop for zoom. http://patriciazaballos.com/2020/04/16/how-to-facilitate-a-virtual-writers-workshop-for-kids/

      All you really need to do to get started is gather a group of people. At least three would be best–maybe aim for three to seven or so? Unfortunately the other commenters on my blog aren’t likely to see your comment since this particular post is several years old, but maybe you have some friends who might want to try writing? You could always do a test run for a limited number of meetings to see how it goes. You might want to ask folks to bring something short to read for your first meeting, say five pages or less. Or you could meet the first time and just chat about expectations and do a writing exercise together. There are exercises for kids in my book (called explorations) that you could probably adapt for adults, or you could look for adult books with writing exercises. I LOVE some of the exercises Lynda Barry suggests in the second part of her book What it Is. Check out her X-page exercise here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ-AeDuL8vI

      For the workshop, I think that even with adults, sticking with positive feedback at first–as I suggest in my book–is a great idea. Just like kids, adults really benefit from hearing what they’re doing well. Jumping too quickly into constructive feedback often isn’t terribly constructive. Instead, better to let the writer guide the discussion and ask for the help they need. Here’s a great article about workshops for adults that follow a model similar to what I do with kids: https://lithub.com/unsilencing-the-writing-workshop/

      I hope you do it, Sonya! Please let me know if I can be of further help!

  • Stephanie Mar 3, 2023 @ 11:33

    I don’t know too much about writer’s workshops, but I have been wanting to start a little something at the library for young writers and writers in the community. My oldest enjoys writing. She is constantly writing stories and does illustrations along with them. I had the idea to take her work to an office supply store and turn them into books. I also got the information to speak to someone at the library to get the ball rolling on highlighting a writer every month. Children can submit their stories to the library. There is an approval process we have to go through, but once cleared; then we can display the story or stories from the particular author for the month. Hopefully that will not only motivate my oldest daughter Arabella, but will motivate others as well. Then we can set one up for the adults.

    Thank you so much for writing How To Homeschool. I have to remember that I don’t have to live up to my parents idea of what homeschool is, but what myself, my husband, and my kids have made it. It works for us. We have our own style and that’s ok. It’s okay for us to be working and Poppa calls us out to do some grass surfing. It’s okay for us to have blurred lines when it comes to grade levels because my 2nd grader can do some 3rd grade work and my 3rd grader still needs some extra help in 2nd grade subjects. There is a quote that we say often. “Every student can learn. Just not on the same day or in the same way.” – George Evans
    We say that quote often; and I we will continue to say it so that they never forget that just like their unique creativity, unique style, and unique personality is beautiful, so is the way they learn. They have beautiful minds. You have helped me see that rigid doesn’t necessarily equal learning. My daughters have all learned to read by the age of 3. It was fun for them, but my son, not so much. He wouldn’t focus. Instead he was more interested in math. So I put the reading on the back burner and now he is choosing to pick up reading at 4. I still read every week night to all the children as a group and no matter how old they have gotten, they still love to huddle up around me and listen to the stories we have chose for the night. There will a variety of different ones. It melts my heart that my babies still look forward to curling up to their Momma every night even though they love reading for themselves already.

    • patricia Apr 4, 2023 @ 16:01

      Wow, Stephanie, you are so good at finding ways to encourage your kids’ writing! I love that you help your daughter turn her writing into books. (My collection of my own kids’ self-published books are among my favorite possessions.) And the fact that you helped create a program for kid authors at your library! You’re amazing!

      Yes, you have your own style of homeschooling and it definitely seems okay. So wonderfully okay. 🙂

      That George Evans quote is great–and helpful.

      Yes: structure and learning. That was always what I struggled with. How much structure really helped? Maybe you saw this post of mine, in which I grapple with that: http://patriciazaballos.com/how-we-homeschool/ It got easier over time, as it seems to be happening for you. And oh: the image of your kids huddling around you for a book. Those were honestly my favorite moments as a mother. I miss them dearly. Lucky you!

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